Yeah, this is a Big Damn Problem both with tumblr and with well, society and where we're headed.
I work with primarily old-fashioned conservative family men (regardless of age-- the Millennials are panning out the same way as the Boomers and GenXers here). They love Trump, hate that Kenyan Muslim dude in the White House and his socialist policies, and politically are mostly pretty spiteful. But they're... nice people? Who mostly love their wives and kids and support their families and go to the churches where they reinforce all the patriarchal bullshit and do anti-gay missionary work in Uganda (so not kidding) and volunteer at the county fair and drive their teenage daughters 1000 miles for both cheer squad competitions and anti-abortion rallies. Some of them are my friends. When my dad was sick, dozens offered their prayers. I think prayers are useless and their god's not real but I thanked them sincerely because that was their mode of compassion.
It's a mess. My husband says it's bad for me to be immersed in that for 40 hours a week. On the other hand, I know what it's like outside the bubble?
If you are religious, definitely don't mention it, or if you do mention it, emphasize that you're not one of those religious people,
Tho I had a co-worker I have known for twelve years tell me last Thursday that he'd lost all respect for me because he'd noticed I skip "under God" during the Pledge of Allegiance. Just throwing that out there. The reinforcement of "correct" belief in the south and the heartland is every bit as smothering.
it seems a little weird that left-wing radicals, particularly in the echo chamber that is Tumblr, focus almost exclusively on the SJ-based virtues.
It's really alien territory. You get into that zone where, as the blog you linked to points out, the idea that people should get more time off work to spend with their families is not considered a public good because UGH families, or that civic holidays are terrible because of colonialism. The basic nuts-and-bolts aspects of a traditional civil society are either valued less than SJ values or outright condemned, and I don't see SJ offering anything up in the place of what's being rejected other than some kind of weird segregated tribalism.
Then again, the very vocal and angry people on tumblr may have an issue with the concept of family because their own nuclear and extended families were shit to them, the same way that Ireland is falling away from the Catholic Church because hey, it was a cover for all kinds of systematic abuse. What do you do when the central pillars of a value system fail so terribly?
Family failed. The State failed. Churches failed. Justice failed. Education failed. Unions failed. Hard work and discipline didn't pay off for three decades. So... now what?
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Date: 2015-12-17 11:08 pm (UTC)I work with primarily old-fashioned conservative family men (regardless of age-- the Millennials are panning out the same way as the Boomers and GenXers here). They love Trump, hate that Kenyan Muslim dude in the White House and his socialist policies, and politically are mostly pretty spiteful. But they're... nice people? Who mostly love their wives and kids and support their families and go to the churches where they reinforce all the patriarchal bullshit and do anti-gay missionary work in Uganda (so not kidding) and volunteer at the county fair and drive their teenage daughters 1000 miles for both cheer squad competitions and anti-abortion rallies. Some of them are my friends. When my dad was sick, dozens offered their prayers. I think prayers are useless and their god's not real but I thanked them sincerely because that was their mode of compassion.
It's a mess. My husband says it's bad for me to be immersed in that for 40 hours a week. On the other hand, I know what it's like outside the bubble?
If you are religious, definitely don't mention it, or if you do mention it, emphasize that you're not one of those religious people,
Tho I had a co-worker I have known for twelve years tell me last Thursday that he'd lost all respect for me because he'd noticed I skip "under God" during the Pledge of Allegiance. Just throwing that out there. The reinforcement of "correct" belief in the south and the heartland is every bit as smothering.
it seems a little weird that left-wing radicals, particularly in the echo chamber that is Tumblr, focus almost exclusively on the SJ-based virtues.
It's really alien territory. You get into that zone where, as the blog you linked to points out, the idea that people should get more time off work to spend with their families is not considered a public good because UGH families, or that civic holidays are terrible because of colonialism. The basic nuts-and-bolts aspects of a traditional civil society are either valued less than SJ values or outright condemned, and I don't see SJ offering anything up in the place of what's being rejected other than some kind of weird segregated tribalism.
Then again, the very vocal and angry people on tumblr may have an issue with the concept of family because their own nuclear and extended families were shit to them, the same way that Ireland is falling away from the Catholic Church because hey, it was a cover for all kinds of systematic abuse. What do you do when the central pillars of a value system fail so terribly?
Family failed. The State failed. Churches failed. Justice failed. Education failed. Unions failed. Hard work and discipline didn't pay off for three decades. So... now what?