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Lua ([personal profile] queenlua) wrote2012-07-08 02:33 am

The Importance of Being Prolific

Once again, Hacker News is discussing an oddly artsy article: The Importance of Being Prolific, which discusses the differences between prolific and non-prolific artists in various mediums (filmakers, novelists, etc). Pretty good read.

Some random related thoughts: while it's certainly not unheard of for a famous writer to publish only one or two books in their lifetime (To Kill a Mockingbird is the canonical example, but there's also Wuthering Heights and Invisible Man), as far as I know this is not the case for visual art—for a visual artist to be considered famous/well-regarded, they almost always need to have a large body of work. Part of this is probably due to the nature of the mediums—a piece of art is quicker to digest than a whole novel—but I still find this rather interesting.

Also, it's interesting to consider how the age of an artist factors into their work. I'm mainly thinking of music here—when you look at the romantic era of music, all the famous composers either (a) died young, or (b) produced their best work while they were young. (I remember when my piano teacher first told me this, I didn't believe her, so I went home and looked up all my favorite romantic composers—and, yup, nearly all of 'em kicked the bucket early.) Other eras of music have favored older composers, but it seems youthfulness was inextricably linked to the sound of romanticism.
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[personal profile] amielleon 2012-07-08 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting article.

You know, a lot of major mathematics is done young, too.

I think there's a profound difference between narrative art and other kinds of genius. It's said that there are very few good writers below the age of thirty, because you need time to live a little and learn about the world and simply learn enough to be able to produce something worth a damn. "For a single verse, one must see many cities."

As for prolificness, I think we probably do best with a blend of both types, which is for the best, because I'm pretty sure it's something inherent to the artist and unchangeable.
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[personal profile] amielleon 2012-07-09 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I think pressures can affect authorial output to some degree, but I mean, people even react differently to those kinds of pressures. Even today, contracts generally come with a deadline. And there are authors who, instead of accepting those deadlines, decide to take a side job and write in their free time rather than agreeing to finish the next book in two years.

Also for what it's worth I'm pretty sure I would hate Dickens no matter how much time he spent on something. *shot*
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[personal profile] amielleon 2012-09-11 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, novel, no, but worth discussing anyway.

I decidedly agree with your afterthought that there's some correct balance of work and free time that makes one want to write. Let me add "stress" in there, too, because an overabundance of stress tends to make me want to curl up and mope instead of doing creative things. And let me also retroactively amend that it may not be "wanting to write", but "writing better". In hindsight I produced a shitton of words during the year I had entirely too much free time. It was simply that not very much of it was good, and that the words to free time ratio was poorer.

I also agree Tchaikovsky, and I had some friends back in the day who'd said a similar thing. You have inspiration sometimes, and when you do that's great. But most of the time you're going to have to work without it, and it's that "baseline" writing ability you need to improve, because inspiration is merely a gift when you can take it.

I'd also like to ask whether we're talking about how many words a writer spits out, or how many works they finish. I think it's a very different exercise to spit out a few errata and scenes that don't click and abandon it, than to persevere through the course of a work. (And it's the latter I have trouble with, whenever I start whining about writing. I suspect I've written 10k or more words this summer; they just aren't forming a coherent piece.)

Likewise one might ask what output really counts as output. We basically essay at each other every couple of days here in fandom, and I think much of it contributes to the kind of thought that does on some level improve creative writing ability. But it's not the same as putting something out.

I mean, no one looks at engineers and thinks they're naturally non-prolific. I guess some may be slower or more methodical than others, but most can produce reasonable products of their engineering on a fairly regular basis...

No, but I do think there's the cultural idea of the genius scientist who comes up with rad ideas out of nowhere, vs the one who slaves over data and memorizes stuff/crunches numbers.

Also "mawkish southern sentimentality" is basically the perfect phrase for To Kill a Mockingbird.